No Stamp Just Bad Luck

Hello all I would like to say that I
have been so busy with work that
I have not hat the time to post
but that is not the case at all
Thanks to the old back I have
ended up back in the Hospital.

I have been here sence Wednesday
night not sure how long I will have to stay
this time either I sure hope that it is not
to long you know Doctors and Hospital
are ok just as long as I don't have to have
any thing to do with them and here lately
I have been having more then my share of
Doctors Visit and Hospital stay's.

Sorry I don't have any thing to show with
this post not so easy to have stamps with
one while in the Hospital .

That is it for now I hope to be back soon
with my stamps till then guy's

Happy Stamping.

Dragon Boat Races & Stamps

Hello All I just have to share this
set of stamps with you, I got them
the other day in the mail from
a good friend Thank you Michael.

I was drawn in to the stamps right
away the Design & color of the stamps
pulls you right in to them they are a
set on joined issued stamps from
Australia, Hong Kong, China
so I set out to find out what I could
about them and let me say that
it is a very good read.

Stamps Capture Romance
of Dragon Boat Races
and if you want to even read more
about the Dragon Boat Races
Dragon Boat Festival Facts

I had to work Saturday was not to good
of a day for me was not feeling to good
I walk in to the office to find bins of snail
mail and I had went in to work with the
email sever filter system and boy did I
mess up big time one wrong click and
boy did I have a lot of UN-happy people
on Monday they got a lot of junk in there
inbox that no one wants.

Well that it for tonight

Happy stamping.

Golden Rule of Stamp Trades

You know when I started out trading
my doubles in yahoo groups I wish
that I had know about some of these
simple rules witch I don't feel like that
they are unfair, they may seam unfair
to some and a bit over the top.

But this is coming from someone
that lost ever double that I had to
trade with in just a matter of a
couple of months and now I am
offering FDC for your used stamps
Budrow@Highland.Net
just so I can build a trading pill
back up because I miss trading
with the good trader that are to be
found in the groups.

I have started a list of good traders
as well as a Black Ball list if you
watch group messages you can find
where they was a member for a short
time till the got a few of the members
to send them stamps and after they
got the stamps from the members
then would leave that group.

only to join another groups and start
all over again with a new name
they can change the name you send
mail to, but something that's it's real hard
for them to change is there postal
address so by starting the black ball
list I save my self from loosing a big
set of FDC that I had all ready
fix up to put in the mail but one
member of the group seen us talk
about a trade, so he showed me where
this person was not to be trusted
they had took a lot of people in about
seven of the stamp groups.

The same person I was ready to mail
a set of $45 Lunar New Year FDC
out to so I ask about all the messages
in the groups about them and showed them
the groups messages and still offered
to do the trade if they would send first.

I never heard any thing back from
them so that just showed me that they
was truth in the groups messages
if they had of been false you would
think they would want to set the
record straight.

So here is some simply rules
that should help out with many
happy trades.

A Few good rules for happy stamp
exchanges What to do before?

Define the trade : quality, definitive,
commemoratives, used, mint,
CTO, topical, country, price,

Specify before if you send or accept
duplicates Do you accept CTO ?
Canceled To Order :
very beautiful stamps for
commercial use only
Cheaters are mostly acting at
the first trade :
so consider first package
as a test only.
Don't accept too interesting trade
quickly, this may be suspect.

Avoid to send more than 50
stamps in the first package.

Avoid to send high-value
stamps in the first package.

Trick : Avoid to send first
if someone contacts you first.
The one who contacts first,
sends first.

Trick : Accept to send more
than initial trade if the other
sends first (60 for 50)
And Send only what you would
be happy to receive.

Do you have a little doubt ?
Don’t trade high-value stamps
Do you have a little doubt ?
Do a quick search about this
person on the net before
(google)

Generally when someone gives his
postal address, this person
agrees the trade.
Who is this stamp trader?
When you are in contact with a new stamp
trader you never know who is this person.
Ask the new contact to give you some emails
of past traders as reference.
I have giving out email of past traders but
only after I asked them fist.

be sure to let the person know why you want
to give out there email address as a trader
Reference to a new trader.
What's about the Postal service?

If you don't send by registered letter,
accept letters to be lost or stolen
sometimes And when mailing out side
the US Registered or tracking don't
coast that much better safe then sorry.

Give a good protection to your stamps,
cardboard is the best.

What is a normal trade agreement?
Golden Rule :In any case if you are not
satisfied some trade could be cancelled :
"I don’t accept your stamps please
send mine back please"

Stamps must be in perfect condition :
no transparency, no tearing off,
no coloring, no fold.

Defective stamps should be returned
and exchanged if possible,
without discussion as a quality warranty.

Accept that stamps could be lost
on the way and never arrived if you
don't have some type of tracking.

Important: Always be polite.
A Gentleman agreement
is always possible.

You can use a scanner
for your stamp.

For high values scan
each side of stamps.

What to do after?

When stamps arrive (99% of trades),
confirm it by a mail, give a feedback
about received stamps.
Most of stamp cheaters are famous
and mostly already identified on
a stamp black list, start you own
as well and any time you see a bad
trader from a group but them in your
list .
If you are cheated, don’t hesitate to
ask assistance in the groups.

This can help.Send a complaint to the
post office of the cheater.
Send a complaint to all the
philatelic sites you can find.

HOPE THIS WILL HELP
FOR HAPPY EXCHANGES !!!

http://tinyurl.com/s9b3u

Money, Money And Stamps & More Money

Stamp Collecting make's me
think about this movie I
seen with Tom Hanks where
he buys a real nice looking
house and movies in only to
find out that the nice looking
House is nothing but a
MONEY BIT.

if you can tell me the name of
the movie you will get a FDC
Budrow@Hihgland.Net

if one really knew just what a
money bit that stamp collecting
can be I am sure a lot of people
would not even brother to collect
any thing at all.

around $20.00 for a local stamp club
news letter & membership for a year.

then you have another $20 for the news
letter & membership for the A.P.S.
for a year.

then another $20 for news letter &
membership for the F.D.C.S.
for a year.

then you have around $30 bucks for
the Scott stamp Monthly for a year.

and how can one for get about linns
Stamp News that is around $50 a year.

All so we can't forget the catalogs
that one does need to help them
out with there stamps some like
Scott some like Michael's
and just the Scott US catalog is
close to $60 and the whole set
is something like $280.00

and let me tell you right now I am
learning that one does need some
type of World Wide Catalog sooner
or later just so you your self can get
a ideal of the value of a stamp.

Now you have spend out all that money
just so you can be informed and find
out about stamps well now you want
to take you collect to the next step
and put it in a album and they got you
here as well the price of a starter album
can be as low as $50 in to Hundred's of
Dollars just to get you started with a
nice album and you would think with
one paying so much for it, you would
not have to buy any things else for it
well guess what you have to buy yearly
updates for it and that is all so a nice
hunk of change.

So let me say I look up to the people
that have stamp Blogs and that share
things with us all reading those blog
and best of all they don't coast you
a thing but the time to read it and
the first blog I read is Michael's
cddStamps Weblog
http://blog.michael.dodd.com/

Then the next one I stop my to read
is Don's http://tinyurl.com/rws85
The Stamp Collecting Round-Up.

Let me say that these guy's but a lot
of time, heart and soul in to there
Blogs and it shows because it keeps
people like me coming back for more.

I try to put as much heart in my but I
just not there yet but I working on it.
I think some times I can get a little bit
to personal with my and I know that
people want to read about stamps
not my up and downs of day to day
life here is something that has me
down I don't understand just why
the US Post Office deiced to
reissue two stamps this year
that has all ready been issued.

I think it is just a way for them to get
more money from collectors

and the only thing that changed
about the stamps was the
postage rate printed on the
stamps it does look like they
could have done something
a little different but they did not.
same stamp just the new rate on
them, you know I bet that the US
Post Office Issues more stamps
in a year then any other country.

who would of ever thought
that stamp collect could be a big
money bit if one let's it be.

Do you have a stamp Blog?

Do you Know of a good one that
you like to drop by when you got
the time and read it?

How about a site to find News about
stamps?

You can find Links to the left of the
top page of places I like to visit
on the web when I got the time.

Send me your links and the best one
will earn a places in my links section.
Budrow@Highland.Net

Happy Stamping.

Gibraltar Stamp & A NEW RELEASE

Europa 2006 “Integration of Immigrants
as seen by young people”

the new Europa 2006 stamps
“Integration of Immigrants
as seen by Young people”
will be released on
the 30th June 2006

Once again the Gibraltar Philatelic
Bureau has adhered to the motto
“innovation, not imitation” and
therefore commissioned a US artist
for this special set.

The illustrations were produced in clay,
then painted and finally photographed
to go onto the stamps.
The idea was to show children from
different races and religions playing
and enjoying each other’s company.

The stamps are in fact an allegory
of the racial and religious harmony
enjoyed in Gibraltar.

The 30,000 people who live and work
in Gibraltar encompass all the
world’s major races and religions.

It is no coincidence the illustrations
we made out of clay.

Clay is an earthy material employed
by ancient civilisations and certainly
by every culture we want to focus
upon in this issue, thus we felt
it was the perfect way to bring
originality and innovation as far
as stamp design goes,
plus a way to find this very subtle
common link between cultures.

I have not seen to many stamps
from Gibraltar so when ever I
find one I hold on to it for some
reason there stamps kind of
reminded me of GB stamps
I bet I will make some one upset
that I have said that.

Put it I get a world wide mix of stamps
I pour them out on to the desk and
start picking out the ones I want to
keep and add to my collect.

And I all ways hope to find some GB
then the next country that I collect
witch is Gibraltar because is show's
in there stamps that they do care
about what they isssue I feel like
that Gibraltar but a lot of though in to
the stamps that they do Issue a stamps
that means something,

Gibraltar takes pride in the stamps
that they do issue may be that is why
they don't release more then they
do in a year because they do care
about what they do issue and it does
show in the stamps.

if you have any dubble of any Gibraltar
stamps and would lilke to trade for
for some FDC from the US I sure
woudl like to hear from you.
Budrow@Highland.Net

Happy Stamping.

A Bit Under The Weather.

Hello all just a quite note
tonight I have been out of
it the past couple of day's
The Doctor's has got me
on total bed rest for now.

I know some are looking for
some thing from me so I am
going to try and make it to the
post office tomorrow and got
a lot of things to mail out.

I hate it that I coudl not do the
post that I so wanted to do for
father's day, but I was not able
to find many stamps to use
with the post I have not giving
up on doing it I just need more
photos of stamps about father's
day so if you know of any please
let me know about them.
Budrow@Highland.Net

So in closeing let's have a bit
of fun and give away a cover.

In 1973 What Nation issued a stamp
in the shape of a record.

These stamps had the
National anthem recorded on
one side of the stamp and
could actually be played on
a record player.
Email me your answer.
Budrow@Highland.Net

Happy Stamping.

The Old Man

The Old Man

(Phil Coulter)

The tears have all been shed now

We've said our last good-byes

His soul's been blessedHe's laid to rest

And it's now I feel alone

He was more than just a father

A teacher, my best friend

He can still be heard In the tunes we

shared When we play them on our own

I never will forget him

For he made me what I am

Though he may be gone Memories linger on

And I miss him, the old man

As a boy, he'd take me walking By mountain

field and stream And he showed me

things Not known to kings And secret

between him and me Like the colors

of the pheasant As he rises in

the dawn And how to fish and make

a wish Beside the holly tree

I never will forget him For he made me

what I am Though he may be gone

Memories linger on And

I miss him, the old man

I thought he'd live forever He seemed

so big and strong But the minutes fly

And the years roll by For a father

and a son And suddenly,

when it happened There was so much

left unsaid No second chance To

tell him thanks For everything he's done

I never will forget him For he made me

what I am Though he may be gone

Memories linger on

And I miss him, the old man.

(Please Take the time today

and tell your dad what he means

to you.)

Let Me know About Daddy.

Hello All I hope you are having
at a good evening I will have
to keep the post short tonight.

Getting ready to call it a day.
done a little shopping on e-bay
tonight and am watching one
more auction witch will end some
time tomorrow guess you could
say that I am spending that
money all ready from selling
off my coke~Cola collect.

No Trivia tonight in stead I want
to hear a story about your Father.
I will give 10 cover to the first 10
people that shares there story's of
Daddy with me we all have some
thing that all way stick's out in our mind
about dad that time he did ?? and
had the hold family laughing
or may be in was dear old
dad that got you started
with stamp collecting..

And the best story out of the 10 I
will share here with you all as a follow
up to my post that I do for Fathers Day.
So be sure to check back tomorrow
for what I have learned in my quest
to learn about father's day stamps.

So share that dear old dad story
Budrow@Highland.Net

Happy Stamping.

I Sold It All

Hello All I hope you are finding
time for stamping as I told
early in the week I am off work
this week thanks to the Doctor's.

So what have I been up to you
might ask well sence Saturday
I have been going through the
house and gather up every
things that I had in my Collect
getting it all together in just
one room and let me tell
you it was not a easy job to
gather up every piece that
spades almost 15 years of
collecting every piece that I
had and let me say that is sure
made a lot of room on my
book shelves, that now look
so bare with out the collect.

Well after I got it all together
what did I do with it you are
wondering I sold it every piece
that I had all at one time.

ok don't worry I not talking about
my stamps I sold off my Coke~Cola
collect there was any thing and every
thing you could think of that was Coke
or had any thing to do with Coke~Cola
I made a fellow collector very happy
yesterday when I sold it all to him in one
big lot at a good price.

There was a couple of reason I sold it all
1. I will tell you the number on reason a
little later on
2. I can take that money now and put it
in to what else of Crosse that would be
Stamps and stuff that I want to add
to my stamp collect.
and then the number 3 reason I will tell
you later on when the time is right.

So please for give me but I just had to
share this with some one just like I am
sharing the above cover with you all.
Witch I think is the ugliest stamps I have
seen this year so far.

Let me know what you think of

the stamps.

Budrow@Highland.Net

Had you going think I has sold off my stamps
I can tell you this I never see me selling off
my stamp collect at all they will go to my
future boy that I will be blessed with
some day when the lord is ready for
me to be a father.

Happy Stamping.

The Post man was good to me today

Good Day all I have missed
a lot of work this week but
it has not been for
stamps I sure wish it would
have been may be I would
not be is so much pain from
the old back.

I know I had promised to show
some of the covers I did for
666 but I thought I would show
this one for now I got it from
a good friend in Australia
whit a nice surprise in side
a nice cover I will show you
on another post and that's not all
just the day be for the big dooms
day 666 on 05-06-06 he fix up
a packages and mail it on the 5th
so the one he mail on the 5th
and 6th came on the same day
the 13th and let me just say that
you so because they come on
the 13th in no way was there any
thing bad in side but a lot of
the good stuff you know stamps
and Covers some thing to keep
me happy for a little while.

Noticed the stamp on the 666
cover it is for the world Cup
Sad to say so far the USA had
let me down so far but it not all
over just yet come on go
U.S.A.

and guy's I know you are wounding
about who got the cover for the
world cup trivia I still am going
through the email no joke I got
Hundreds of replys.

and I am answering every one of them.

Now a easy on I think tell me
what the Golden Ball Winners
are of the world cup and
get a cover.
Budrow@Highland.Net

Happy Stamping.

What is IT & Still No Mail

Good evening all I hope All
your stamp dreams have
come true today me would
you still believe that
I am still waiting on that
shipment from the U.S.F.D.C.S
I think I will be a old man when it
does get here so to pass the
time my friend has started a
stamp blog of his own
and I have been enjoy reading
his post I am P.C.
Philatelic Crazy and Ez
he has P.M.S.
Philatelic Madness Syndrome
be sure to drop by his new Blog
http://philatelicmadnesssyndrome.blogspot.com/
I sure you will enjoy it.

ok now for a bit of trivia fun I think I got a lot
of you with last night's trivia.
and want to thank every one how replied
with the answers I will post the winner
tomorrow night I just might have to pick
more then one because so many got
there answer in at the same time
so I going to have to look at the time
stamp on the messages to be far
to all that sent a reply for the trivia
Thank you and be sure to look
tomorrow night if you are a winner.

And for tonight a stamp that I know
about how about you if you can tell
me the year of issue the name of
the stamp or the topic of the
stamps you will get your self
a cover e-mail you answer to
Budrow@Highland.Net

Happy Stamping.

Five Year Old Letter and a FDC

Good evening all I hope
you had a good day and
found some time for stamps.

We found when I say we I
meaning my sister witch who
is by the way my best friend
in life even tho we have another
brother & sister we are the
youngest of four and very
close have to be been you
work and live together.

Tracy and my brother in law
was cleaning up the Z71 today
getting it ready for a bit of summer
driving being a class it don't get
drive a hole lot and the last time
it was drove so much was when
Daddy was going to Oakridge and
Knoxville for his cancer treatment
so he could lay down oh the way
home after the treatments.

So while going back and forth to the
Doctors we must have stopped and
got the mail from the post office
Box and got the mail and it being
only one piece just had forget got
about it because at the time I had
a lot of other more things to think
about then mail I was loosing
someone very close to me.

So today that letter finely got opened
After all most five year Tracy was
the one that found it in the truck
and as soon as she see the
package she knew right away what
was in side as I did to.

It was the above FDC witch at first
I was over joy'ed I though on great
a new FDC till I look at the Date stamp
on the cover June 25, 1999.
it was issued on Friday after
Fathers Day.

to me what I remember the most
about 1999 was that I was going
to lose my father and for us
Father Day was a big deal for us
so today when I seen it I was happy
and all so cried at the same time
because June was when we would
do something special for him.

not that we did not do other special
thing for him during the year but
fathers day was the one time a year
that he knew he could ask us for
any thing and me and my sister
would have moved a mountain for
him or he was sure getting that
High Dollar toy or tool that he
wanted a lot of feels from one
cover who knew.

So I want to ask for help from you
and have tried to do a bit harder
trivia for tonight.

If you know of any stamps
about Father Day
(Not Founding Father's)
stamp that honor one Father
on his special day
I need photos or just any info
that you can send to me
Budrow@Highland.Net
about this I need it to do another
special post about fathers day
like I did on Mothers day.

Now for a bit of Fun and the lucky
winner will get them self a FDC.

For the right answers to the questions.
I have been seeing a lot of new issues
for the World Cup witch I hope to
keep some of so I hope you are up
on you World Cup History.


1. The First World Cup was in what year ????.
2. Where Was The First World Cup Held?
3. How Many Nations was at the First World Cup?

Be sure to send you answers to me at
Budrow@Highland.Net

Happy Stamping.

Still No Mail For Me

People I telling you all
this waiting on the mail man
is making me a old Gary hair
man I am still waiting on that
shipment from the U.S.F.D.C.
and then I got word that I should
all so be looking for something
that was sent on 666 and to
watch out for the special
franking on the letter.

I sure hope when the mail
comes on Monday that my
box is just full of goodies
that sure would be nice.

I special friend said I should
show more of my stamps in
my collect because I have
been showing a lot of new
issues for about the past
two week so tonight I though I
would show this S/S.

Iran / Persian Stamps
Bam Earthquake
Issued
January 21, 2004
to remember a powerful earthquake
That struck southeastern Iran
on December 26, 2003,
killing over 43,000 people,
injured 20,000, left 60,000
homeless and destroyed
much of the city of Bam.

The USGS National Earthquake
information center is reported
a magnitude of 6.6 for the quake,
which was located just
southwest of the city.

About 60 percent of the buildings
in Bam were destroyed.
The old quarter and a
2,000-year-old citadel
(severely damaged by the earthquake)
were built primarily of mud brick.

To read more about Bam
(Click Here)

I have been so busy around the
house today and still work or
replying to all the great email
you guy's are send I love them
every one.

and for the one that was looking
for something to go out in to day's
mail guy's I am just so sorry I missed
the mail man today so if you knew
you had something that was going
out Friday or Saturday I sorry for
a delay and be sure to look back
tomorrow I am work on a great
trivia contest I think this will give
Ez and other a real run for the
cover so you know that this will
be a bit harder I hope so get
ready to put those thinking caps
on till them guy's have a good
Night and Happy Stamping.

The Day After 6-6-6

Good evening all well
it's the day after 06-06-06
and I still feel like I am
living a nightmare

666 was a 24 hour work
day for me so it started
for me on the 5th and did
not end for me till 2:00 A.M.
on 06-07-06 and I only
managed get one email done
yesterday in my free time.

I did get to make it to the post
office to get the big 666 post
mark 25 minutes be for they
was to close I will tell you all
about that in another post when
I show one of those covers
I had done.

there was on big thing about
yesterday that did brother be
and a few others about yesterday
you heard more about 666
on the news the morning
TV shows and if that was
not bad enough most people
get not get pass the 666.

There was one placed that I did
stop in for a meeting that
they knew for sure what day it
was, to them and me and
so many others it was
June the 6th (D-Day) and that
meeting was at the VFW

So the guy's and me had six
pints each of beer now
any thing stronger I would not
had got any work done at all.

And what I though would be a
nice easy going day for me
soon turned in to a day of me
being on the phone just about
all day so to night I though what
better to show then this
Alexander Graham Bell
cover and I have Michael to thank
for it you can find his Blog here
http://blog.michael.dodd.com/

you would think any body that
hate's to talk on the phone as
much as I do would not want
any thing from
Alexander Graham Bell
this is all so coming from some
one that just does not have one
phone line in there home but four
with eight phone numbers and I
wont even talk about
the cell phones.

all Blog winner be looking for mail
soon I am just about done with
all the mailings and if I own you
a email look for it by tomorrow
Friday by the latest and look
for a couple of new post
later today.

Happy Stamping.

NZ Post decides not to issue Maori Performing Arts stamps

After careful consideration
New Zealand Post has
decided not to release
the Maori Performing Arts
stamp issue.

that was to be released
on June 7,2006

This decision follows consultation
with a range of Maori arts
and culture communities
over the past week.

Some concerns about the
design style of the stamp
were raised with
New Zealand Post
when they first promoted
the stamp issue.
Consequently,
They sought additional advice
and They concluded that
the stamps would cause
offence to some people.

At New Zealand Post our
intention is that
New Zealand Post postage
stamps carry images that
celebrate aspects of
New Zealand life and culture
and can be proudly sent
round the world.

they will create a stamp issue
that celebrates kapa haka
in the future and will provide
information about this
issue closer to the time.

As the stamps have not been
released the stock is accounted
for and will be destroyed
according to
New Zealand Post's
processes.

"I do regret any disappointment or
inconvenience that this may cause you".
Your sincerely

Ivor Masters General Manager

Stamps and Collectables.

This is all the details I know about this for
now but I can say this it will be a shame
not to see these stamps because I
happen to think the are nice.

All so you guy's I am still looking
for any info or photos of Father's
Day stamps thanks not going to
good for me one things for sure
you can find Mothers I just want
to know Where DADDY is???
so if you know any thing about a
stamp that has been issued in the
past or a stamp to be released
about Fathers be sure
to let me know
Budrow@Highland.Net

All so I want to that a Monte to
let you all know about one lucky
Guy his name is EZ and let me
tell you this much for the past
week he has been on fire
with the Postal Trivia.

So to night may be something
a bit hard we will have to wait
and see all of you answers
For a FDC e-mail
the answer to me,
Budrow@Highland.Net

The first post office
in Sharjah opened ????
Tell me the Date and you
have got the Cover.
I will Put all the names that
get the answer right
in a hat.
And for some lucky five that
get it right I will draw out
five names so there will
be five winners for this
round of.

PHILATELIC CRAZY TRIVIA

So get your answer In early

U.S. Bureau Of Engraving And Printing Misprint.

(CLICK ON PHOTO TO ENLARGE TO SEE DATE)

Hello all I know this will
a bit of topic for me
but I just have to share
this with all of you.
Might make one want to

collect Bank Notes.

You know those New
Ten Dollars Bills
That was issued on
March 2, 2006
by the
U.S. Bureau Of
Engraving And Printing.

Look at the bills
CLOSE
The date is
misprinted
on some of the bills
I'm not saying that every
one has is a misprint.

I have try no now end

searching.

and found

nothing

but there are MISPRINTS

out there .

Quite Look in you'r

POCKETBOOK :-)

And if you got one pull it out

and put it away for safe keeping

for now, This come from two very

good soures one Being me the stamp Crazy

Blogger 2st from my friend that handles

Mint comins and notes.

I know that girls
that work around
at the bank's and just
let me say that it has
be come the talk of
the town around here
and Oneida, TN
as well so.

So from Oneida,
Tennessee
to Whitley City,
Kentucky I stopped at every
Branch of my Home Town
bank's and got those ten's
if they had any.

you can find about all about
the new money at this site.
http://www.moneyfactory.gov/newmoney/

If any Body Knows any thing I sure would

Like to hear what you have to say!

Do you have any?

I got me some.

I Sure hope some of my fellow

collects and fill me in
Budrow@Hihgland.Net

I promise that next post will be
about stamps.

Happy Collecting.